{"id":27534,"date":"2017-02-08T13:41:57","date_gmt":"2017-02-08T13:41:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/dev2.atlatszo.exot.hu\/?p=27534"},"modified":"2022-09-14T16:14:28","modified_gmt":"2022-09-14T16:14:28","slug":"liderii-radicalilor-secui-denuntati-de-catre-propriul-coleg","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dev2.atlatszo.exot.hu\/ro\/romana\/liderii-radicalilor-secui-denuntati-de-catre-propriul-coleg\/","title":{"rendered":"Liderii radicalilor secui, denun\u021ba\u021bi de c\u0103tre propriul coleg"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Nu Serviciul Rom\u00e2n de Informa\u021bii (SRI) a interceptat discu\u0163iile din octombrie 2015 ale membrilor din T\u00e2rgu Secuiesc ai Mi\u015fc\u0103rii Tinerilor din cele 64 de Comitate (HVIM). Unul dintre membrii organiza\u0163iei a \u00eenregistrat discu\u0163ia, oferind-o apoi autorit\u0103\u021bilor. Acesta a ap\u0103rut ca martor protejat \u00een cadrul procesului desf\u0103\u015furat la Curtea de Apel Bucure\u015fti. \u00cen afara acestuia, o singur\u0103 persoan\u0103, Bandi Szabolcs, a depus m\u0103rturie \u00eempotriva inculpa\u021bilor Beke Istv\u00e1n Attila \u015fi Sz\u0151cs Zolt\u00e1n.<\/strong><!--more--><br \/>\n27 ianuarie 2017, \u00een jurul pr\u00e2nzului, ne afl\u0103m \u00eentr-una dintre s\u0103lile de judecat\u0103 ale Cur\u0163ii de Apel Bucure\u015fti. Este una dintre acele ocazii, rare de altfel, c\u00e2nd sistemul judiciar din Rom\u00e2nia pare s\u0103 aib\u0103 fa\u021b\u0103 uman\u0103. Pe ecranul amplasat l\u00e2ng\u0103 pupitrul judec\u0103torului sunt proiectate filmule\u021be gen National Geographic. Bancuri de pe\u015fti se \u00eentrec la \u00eenot, roiuri de albine muncesc de zor \u00een stup, iar \u00een fundal se aude o muzic\u0103 pl\u0103cut\u0103, cei din sal\u0103 discut\u0103 in grupuri, lini\u015fti\u0163i. \u00centreaga atmosfera aminte\u015fte de ceaiurile dansante organizate, pe vremuri, pentru elevi la \u015fcoala general\u0103.<br \/>\n\u00centre timp tehnicianul instan\u021bei lucreaz\u0103 cu s\u00e2rg, mai ceva albinele din documentar, s\u0103 creeze condi\u021biile tehnice pentru ascultarea \u00een \u0219edin\u021b\u0103 public\u0103 a \u00eenregistr\u0103rii pe baza c\u0103reia Direc\u0163ia de Investigare a Infrac\u0163iunilor de Criminalitate Organizat\u0103 \u015fi Terorism (DIICOT) a dispus anchetarea celor doi lideri ai Mi\u015fc\u0103rii Tinerilor din cele 64 de Comitate.<br \/>\n<strong>Traduc\u0103toarea nu-\u015fi asum\u0103 r\u0103spunderea<\/strong><br \/>\nTraduc\u0103toarea oficial\u0103 al instan\u021bei refuz\u0103 din start sarcina dat\u0103 de judec\u0103tor s\u0103 compar\u0103 discu\u0163ia \u00eenregistrat\u0103 cu transcrierea aflat\u0103 la dosar. Refuzul na\u015fte o discu\u0163ie \u00een contradictoriu. Traduc\u0103toarea \u021bine mor\u021bi\u0219 c\u0103 are nevoie de un text scris \u00een limba maghiar\u0103, dat fiind c\u0103 pe \u00eenregistrare se vorbe\u0219te tot \u00een maghiar\u0103. Dup\u0103 ce judec\u0103torul se convinge personal c\u0103 \u00eentr-adev\u0103r, textul din m\u00e2na traduc\u0103toarei este redactat \u00een limba rom\u00e2n\u0103, adic\u0103 este o traducere, grefierul este trimis s\u0103 aduc\u0103 documentul. Pleac\u0103 \u0219i se \u00eentoarce cu un bra\u021b de dosare. Dup\u0103 ni\u0219te investiga\u021bii afl\u0103m c\u0103 discu\u0163ia \u201eatentatorilor\u201d nu a fost transcris\u0103, mai mult, nici nu trebuia transcris\u0103. Ba c\u0103 ar fi fost chiar ilegal\u0103 o asemenea ac\u021biune. Ultima afirma\u0163ie este f\u0103cut\u0103 de procuror, iar judec\u0103torul o accept\u0103 ca atare. (Avocatul lui Sz\u0151cs Zolt\u00e1n clarific\u0103 ulterior c\u0103 transcrierea materialului audio este nu doar o procedur\u0103 legal\u0103, dar \u015fi obligatorie.)<br \/>\nIdeea este c\u0103, \u00een asemenea condi\u021bii, \u00een ciuda tuturor insisten\u021belor traduc\u0103toarea nu vrea s\u0103 certifice c\u0103 textul redactat de traduc\u0103torul procuraturii corespunde materialul audio pe care urmeaz\u0103 s\u0103-l ascult\u0103m.<br \/>\n<strong>Vom face \u2260 mai vedem<\/strong><br \/>\nDIICOT i-a trimis \u00een judecat\u0103 pe Beke Istv\u00e1n \u015fi Sz\u0151cs Zolt\u00e1n \u00een data de <a href=\"http:\/\/portal.just.ro\/2\/SitePages\/Dosar.aspx?id_dosar=200000000336595&amp;id_inst=2\">18 mai 2016<\/a>. Prima \u0219edin\u021b\u0103 public\u0103 a avut loc \u00een data de 13 septembrie, iar primul martor a fost audiat \u00een 7 octombrie.<br \/>\nCele trei \u0219edin\u021be de judecat\u0103, la care am articipat, au ad\u0103ugat foarte multe la percep\u021bia format\u0103 despre presupusul atentat doar pe baza rechizitoriului. Afl\u0103m, printre altele, c\u0103 fraza-cheie a rechizitoriului sun\u0103 cu totul altfel \u00een limba maghiar\u0103.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Orice ar fi pl\u0103nuit inculpa\u021bii, Beke nu a spus \u201efacem\u201d, cum apare \u00een traducere \u0219i \u00een rechizitoriu, ci a spus \u201emai vedem\u201d.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Este una dintre acele por\u021biuni din \u00eenregistrare care se aude destul de clar, \u00een rest nu se destinge mai nimic. Nu \u015ftim cum o fi \u00eentreaga \u00eenregistrare care dureaz\u0103 vreo trei ore. Judec\u0103torul permite audierea unui fragment de circa 25 de minute care con\u021bine, potrivit acuz\u0103rii, dovezi irefutabile. Nu ne d\u0103m seama dac\u0103 este a\u0219a sau nu, \u00eenregistrarea este extrem de zgomotoas\u0103, vocea participan\u021bilor la discu\u021bie este ba prea slab\u0103, ba prea tare \u0219i \u00een consecin\u021b\u0103 distorsionat\u0103, mai tot timpul vorbesc \u00een paralel c\u00e2te dou\u0103-trei persoane. Se disting literalmente doar cuvinte, iar pasajele inteligibile apar destul de rar. Pe baza acestei audieri e greu s\u0103 te pronun\u021bi.<br \/>\n<strong>Camaradul de odinioar\u0103 spune tot<\/strong><br \/>\nBandi Szabolcs, fost membru al Mi\u015fc\u0103rii Tinerilor din cele 64 de Comitate, a fost audiat primul ca martor, \u00een data 7 octombrie 2016. A declarat c\u0103 era prieten cu Beke \u015fi Sz\u0151cs p\u00e2n\u0103 la finele lui 2015. Anterior fusese membru al organiza\u0163iei timp de 7 ani, iar 4 ani f\u0103cuse parte \u201edintr-un cerc mai restr\u00e2ns\u201d. A fost unul dintre cei cinci oameni afla\u0163i \u00een biroul firmei de\u021binute de Beke, deci a participat la \u201e\u00eent\u00e2lnirea conspirativ\u0103\u201d din 10 octombrie 2015 (cel pu\u021bin potrivit rechizitoriului), la care au stabilit detaliile \u201eatentatului\u201d din 1 decembrie (tot dup\u0103 rechizitoriu).<br \/>\nPe alocuri cuvintele lui Bandi par a fi \u00eemprumutate din rechizitoriu, oricum nu vorbe\u015fte ca un secui crescut \u00eentr-un mediu de limb\u0103 maghiar\u0103. De c\u00e2teva ori ofer\u0103 detalii f\u0103r\u0103 s\u0103 fie \u00eentrebat \u015fi-i \u00eenfund\u0103 serios pe fo\u015ftii s\u0103i camarazi. Conform depozi\u0163iei sale, ideea \u201esurprizei\u201d de la 1 decembrie a fost a lui Sz\u0151cs Zolt\u00e1n.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Judec\u0103tor: \u015ei \u00een ce ar fi constat aceast\u0103 supriz\u0103?<br \/>\nBandi: S\u0103 deton\u0103m.<br \/>\nJudec\u0103tor: Unde s\u0103 detona\u0163i?<br \/>\nBandi: \u00cen centru, unde avea s\u0103 aib\u0103 loc parada militar\u0103.<br \/>\nJudec\u0103tor: La parada organizat\u0103 cu ocazia s\u0103rb\u0103torii na\u0163ionale a Rom\u00e2niei?<br \/>\nBandi: Da.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u00cen depozi\u0163ia sa, Bandi \u00eei ajut\u0103 pe procurori, \u015fi nu-i ajut\u0103 deloc pe inculpa\u0163i. La un moment dat men\u0163ioneaz\u0103 c\u0103 \u00een traducere nu apare faptul c\u0103 participan\u0163ii mai tot timpul r\u00e2deau, dar c\u00e2nd judec\u0103torul \u00eel \u00eentreab\u0103 de importan\u0163a acestui am\u0103nunt, d\u0103 \u00eenapoi.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Judec\u0103tor: Discu\u0163ia a fost una serioas\u0103 sau nu?<br \/>\nBandi: Nu pot s\u0103 r\u0103spund nici c\u0103 a fost, nici c\u0103 n-a fost, deoarece dup\u0103 aceea nu ne-am mai \u00eent\u00e2lnit, nu am mai vorbit cu ceilal\u021bi.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>(Bandi \u00eensu\u015fi declar\u0103 c\u0103 s-ar fi \u00eent\u00e2lnit ulterior cu cel pu\u0163in unul dintre participan\u021bii la aceea discu\u021bie, cu Sz\u0151cs Csongor, fratele inculpatului.)<br \/>\nMai t\u00e2rziu avocatul lui Sz\u0151cs Zolt\u00e1n \u00eel \u00eentreab\u0103: s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat vreodat\u0103 s\u0103 glumeasc\u0103 \u00een stil similar, tocmai pentru c\u0103 erau con\u015ftien\u0163i c\u0103 \u015fedin\u0163ele lor sunt urm\u0103rite de autorit\u0103\u021bi? R\u0103spunsul hot\u0103r\u00e2t al lui Bandi Szabolcs este: nu.<br \/>\nBandi confirm\u0103 \u00eenc\u0103 o aser\u021biune crucial\u0103 din rechizitoriu, menit\u0103 s\u0103 sublinieze seriozitatea \u00eent\u00e2lnirii \u015fi a discu\u0163iilor. Sus\u0163ine c\u0103 cei prezen\u0163i nu aveau telefoanele mobile asupra lor, aparatele fiind l\u0103sate \u00eenainte de \u015fedin\u0163\u0103, fie \u00een ma\u0219in\u0103, fie erau adunate \u015fi depozitate \u00eentr-o alt\u0103 \u00eenc\u0103pere.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Versiunea maghiar\u0103 a acestui articol<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" lang=\"en-GB\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/kozpenzek\/perek\/sajat-tarsuk-nyomta-fel-a-64-varmegyeseket\/\">Saj\u00e1t t\u00e1rsuk nyomta fel a 64 v\u00e1rmegy\u00e9seket<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Martorul protejat declar\u0103 \u015fi el acest lucru<\/strong><br \/>\n\u00cen afar\u0103 de Bandi doar martorul protejat sus\u021bine c\u0103 la \u00eent\u00e2lnirile HVIM cei prezen\u0163i nu puteau s\u0103-\u015fi \u021bin\u0103 telefoanele la ei, nici m\u0103car dac\u0103 le \u00eenchideau.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Judec\u0103tor: Aceste discu\u0163ii au avut un caracter serios?<br \/>\nMartorul protejat: P\u0103reau serioase, din moment ce se \u0163ineau \u00eentr-un cerc restr\u00e2ns \u0219i n-aveam telefoanele la noi.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Audierile din 5 decembrie 2016 se desf\u0103\u015foar\u0103 printr-o conferin\u0163\u0103 video. Martorul protejat se afl\u0103 \u00eentr-o alt\u0103 \u00eenc\u0103pere, conectat\u0103 la sala de judecat\u0103 printr-un sistem de videoconferin\u021b\u0103 cu circuit \u00eenchis. Pe monitor, fa\u0163a martorului este acoperit\u0103 de un strat de pixeli, vocea-i este distorsionat\u0103. Puteim intui doar c\u0103 avem de-a face cu un b\u0103rbat.<br \/>\nMartorul nu-\u0219i mai aminte\u0219te numele tuturor participan\u0163ilor la \u00eent\u00e2lnirea din 10 octombrie, dar sus\u021bine c\u0103 el a \u00eenregistrat discu\u021biile. Procurorul \u00eel \u00eentreab\u0103 care a fost obiectivul confec\u0163ion\u0103rii \u201edispozitivului de petarde\u201d. Trebuia s\u0103 fie pus \u00een func\u021biune la T\u00e2rgu Secuiesc, de s\u0103rb\u0103toarea na\u0163ional\u0103 a rom\u00e2nilor, vine r\u0103spunsul. Traduc\u0103toarea se \u00eencurc\u0103 \u0219i vrea o precizare: \u201eTrebuia s\u0103 explodeze?\u201d Martorul repet\u0103: \u201eTrebuia s\u0103 fie pus \u00een func\u021biune.\u201d Procurorul continu\u0103 cu \u00eentrebarea despre scopul \u201edeton\u0103rii\u201d. Ap\u0103rarea nu intervine, de\u0219i procurorul sugereaz\u0103 r\u0103spunsul:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Procuror: Scopul era s\u0103 se creeze panic\u0103?<br \/>\nMartor: Da.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Judec\u0103torul respinge o serie de \u00eentreb\u0103ri venite din partea avocatului lui Sz\u0151cs Zolt\u00e1n, deoarece le consider\u0103 irelevante sau crede c\u0103 ar contribui la dezv\u0103luirea identit\u0103\u0163ii martorului protejat. Judec\u0103torul \u00eentreaba dac\u0103 Sz\u0151cs Zolt\u00e1n \u015fi Beke Istv\u00e1n au participat la \u00eent\u00e2lnire. R\u0103spunsul este da, dar martorul nu \u015ftie cine altcineva mai era acolo \u015fi despre ce altceva s-a mai discutat.<br \/>\nAvocatul ar vrea s\u0103 \u015ftie cum a ajuns martorul la concluzia c\u0103 discu\u0163ia era serioas\u0103, dar judec\u0103torul nu admite nici aceast\u0103 \u00eentrebare \u0219i r\u0103spunde \u00een locul martorului c\u0103 \u201ea\u015fa crede \u015fi gata\u201d. La fel se procedeaz\u0103 \u015fi \u00een cazul \u00eentreb\u0103rilor, relevante de altfel, referitoare la \u00eenregistrarea discu\u021biei, respectiv dac\u0103 a fost \u00eenregistrat\u0103 \u00eentreaga discu\u0163ie sau dac\u0103 \u00eenregistrarea a suferit vreun montaj, \u00eenainte de a fi predat\u0103 autorit\u0103\u021bilor. Judec\u0103torul admite \u00eentrebarea dac\u0103 martorul a ascultat \u00eenregistrarea \u00eenainte s-o predea, dar martorul protejat nu dore\u015fte s\u0103 r\u0103spund\u0103. Avocatul insist\u0103, dar judec\u0103torul intervine: \u201eAsta e!\u201d Martorul refuz\u0103 s\u0103 mai r\u0103spund\u0103 la orice alt\u0103 \u00eentrebare.<br \/>\n<strong>Bandi \u015fi-a schimbat depozi\u0163ia<\/strong><br \/>\nSpre deosebire de martorul protejat, Bandi Szabolcs sus\u0163ine c\u0103 nu Beke Istv\u00e1n, ci Sz\u0151cs Zolt\u00e1n a sugerat s\u0103 se vorbeasc\u0103 codificat \u0219i s\u0103 foloseasc\u0103 temenul de \u201epizza\u201d cu referire la petardele conectate \u00eentr-un dispozitiv. Afirm\u0103 c\u0103 \u00een cursul lunii decembrie, dup\u0103 arestarea preventiv\u0103 a lui Beke Istv\u00e1n, a fost contactat de Sz\u0151cs Csongor.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201eNe-am \u00een\u0163eles la propunerea lui ca \u00een cazul \u00een care voi fi audiat s\u0103 sus\u0163in c\u0103 am glumit la ultima \u015fedin\u0163\u0103\u201d,<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>explic\u0103 Bandi, spun\u00e2nd c\u0103 \u00een ianuarie 2016 a ac\u0163ionat \u00een consecin\u0163\u0103, modific\u00e2ndu-\u015fi depozi\u0163ia mai t\u00e2rziu, dup\u0103 audierea \u00eenregistr\u0103rii \u0219edin\u021bei din octombrie. Ulterior le-a repro\u015fat fra\u0163ilor Sz\u0151cs c\u0103, de\u015fi ace\u015ftia \u00eei promiseser\u0103 un avocat, nu \u015fi-au respectat cuv\u00e2ntul, iar el a trebuit s\u0103 se \u00eenf\u0103\u0163i\u015feze singur \u00een fa\u0163a procurilor.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1853\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1853\" style=\"width: 740px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/16358945_1328121503874778_1926401195_n.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-1853\" src=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/16358945_1328121503874778_1926401195_n-740x467.png\" alt=\"O postare recent\u0103 al lui Bandi se traduce a\u015fa: &quot;dac\u0103 m\u0103 c\u0103uta\u0163i, s\u0103 \u015fti\u0163i c\u0103 am p\u0103r\u0103sit turma \u015fi am \u00eenceput s\u0103-mi urm\u0103resc visurile&quot;\" width=\"740\" height=\"467\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1853\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">O postare recent\u0103 al lui Bandi se traduce a\u015fa: &#8222;dac\u0103 m\u0103 c\u0103uta\u0163i, s\u0103 \u015fti\u0163i c\u0103 am p\u0103r\u0103sit turma \u015fi am \u00eenceput s\u0103-mi urm\u0103resc visurile&#8221;<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>Nu Sebesty\u00e9n-Teleki este mentorul<\/strong><br \/>\nBandi vorbe\u015fte cu lux de am\u0103nunte \u015fi despre \u00eent\u00e2lnirea organizat\u0103 la propunerea lui Sebesty\u00e9n-Teleki Istv\u00e1n \u00een august 2015, \u00een biroul primarului (!) din comuna M\u0103d\u0103ra\u015f. Discu\u0163ia a avut loc la ini\u0163iativa<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/kriptadomb\"> inginerului <\/a>originar din Rom\u00e2nia, dar stabilit la Z\u00fcrich, descris \u00een rechizitoriu drept mentor al conduc\u0103torilor HVIM Transilvania \u015fi autorul <em>Manualului lupt\u0103torului maghiar pentru libertate<\/em>. La aceast\u0103 \u00eent\u00e2lnire s-ar fi vorbit despre detonarea conductelor de gaz care transport\u0103 gaz din Transilvania spre Moldova \u015fi Bucure\u015fti, respectiv despre posibilitatea ca HVIM s\u0103 ob\u0163in\u0103 sprijin material de la ru\u015fi. Sebesty\u00e9n-Teleki ar fi \u00eencercat s\u0103-i conving\u0103 pe tineri c\u0103 ru\u015fii le-ar da bani, dac\u0103 HVIM ar putea s\u0103-\u015fi dovedeasc\u0103 puterea, faptul c\u0103 e o mi\u015fcare \u00een stare \u201es\u0103 demonstreze ceva\u201d.<br \/>\nLa audierea din 27 ianuarie Sz\u0151cs Csongor a declarat \u00een acest context c\u0103 cartea fusese redactat\u0103 \u201edin scrierile publicistice \u015fi g\u00e2ndurile proprii\u201d ale lui Eduardo R\u00f3zsa Flores, \u00eempu\u015fcat mortal \u00een Bolivia, de c\u0103tre o brigad\u0103 antiterorist\u0103 \u00een data de 16 aprilie 2009, \u00een condi\u0163ii r\u0103mase neelucidate p\u00e2n\u0103 azi. Cartea circul\u0103 pe internet \u00eenc\u0103 din anul 2001, av\u00e2nd acela\u0219i con\u0163inut.<br \/>\nTo\u021bi martorii sus\u021bin c\u0103 \u00eent\u00e2lnirea fusese ini\u0163iat\u0103 de Sebesty\u00e9n-Teleki, care a stabilit \u015fi ordinea de zi, dar c\u0103 acesta a fost considerat \u201es\u0103rit de pe fix\u201d, de aceea cei de la HVIM n-au mai vrut s\u0103 se \u00eent\u00e2lneasc\u0103 cu el. Sz\u0151cs Zolt\u00e1n l-ar fi descris pe Sebesty\u00e9n-Teleki chiar cu aceste cuvinte, ceea ce l-a determinat pe cel din urm\u0103 s\u0103 fac\u0103 \u201edezv\u0103luiri\u201d pentru <a href=\"http:\/\/www.maszol.ro\/index.php\/tarsadalom\/70180-svajcba-vezetnek-a-szekely-terrorizmus-szalai\">Maszol.ro<\/a> \u0219i, anterior, pentru <a href=\"http:\/\/ruszinkarpatalja.blogspot.ro\/2016\/09\/exkluziv-szekely-terrorvadban.html\">blogul<\/a> lui Csibi Barna, stabilit \u00een Ucraina.<br \/>\nTot Bandi Szabolcs confirm\u0103 ipoteza procuraturii cu privire la principalul obiectiv al organiza\u0163iei HVIM: reinstaurarea Ungariei Mari. Este un element deosebit de important din punctul de vedere al procuraturii, deoarece conform <a href=\"http:\/\/legislatie.just.ro\/Public\/DetaliiDocument\/57494\">Legii nr. 535\/2004<\/a>, o ac\u021biune se consider\u0103 a fi act terorist, dac\u0103 are o motiva\u0163ie politic\u0103. Simpla detonare a unor petarde ar putea fi considerat\u0103 contraven\u0163ie, eventual o infrac\u0163iune minor\u0103 dac\u0103 vorbim de distrugere de bunuri, nicidecum un <a href=\"http:\/\/Saj\u00e1t t\u00e1rsuk nyomta fel a 64 v\u00e1rmegy\u00e9seket\">atentat \u00eempotriva unei comunit\u0103\u0163i<\/a>.<br \/>\n<strong>Judec\u0103torul dicteaz\u0103<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201eA fost vreodat\u0103 vorba \u00een organiza\u0163ie de solu\u0163ionarea prin for\u0163\u0103 sau prin violen\u0163\u0103 a problemelor \u0162inutului Secuiesc? \u2013 \u00eel \u00eentreab\u0103 avocatul lui Sz\u0151cs Zolt\u00e1n pe martorul Bandi Szabolcs. \u00cen procesul verbal al \u0219edin\u021bei urmeaz\u0103 a fi notat\u0103 \u00eentrebarea: \u201eA\u0163i vorbit vreodat\u0103 despre reinstaurarea prin for\u0163\u0103 a \u0162inutului Secuiesc?\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>De altfel, procedura arat\u0103 cam a\u015fa: grefierul noteaz\u0103 cele spuse \u00een sal\u0103 dup\u0103 cum dicteaz\u0103 judec\u0103torul, tast\u00e2nd la calculator cu dou\u0103 degete. Din acest motiv procesul este foarte lent, nemaivorbind de faptul c\u0103 nu se noteaz\u0103 cu exactitate ce spun martorii, inculpa\u0163ii sau reprezentan\u0163ii lor legali. Avoca\u0163ii ar putea s\u0103 obiecteze de nenum\u0103rate ori, dar n-o fac. (La audierea lui Bandi \u015fi a martorului protejat, de altfel, ap\u0103rarea lui Sz\u0151cs Zolt\u00e1n i-a revenit unei tinere nervoase, avocatul s\u0103u fiind \u201eprins\u201d la o alt\u0103 \u0219edin\u021b\u0103 de judecat\u0103, pesemne mai important\u0103.)<br \/>\n\u00cen cursul audierilor din data de 27 ianuarie ap\u0103rarea \u00eencearc\u0103 s\u0103 dovedeasc\u0103 c\u0103 \u00eent\u00e2lnirea din 10 octombrie, potrivit rechizitoriului, \u00een realitate a avut loc \u00eentr-o alt\u0103 dat\u0103. Trei martori sus\u0163in la unison \u2013 Sz\u0151cs Csongor, Mih\u00e1ly M\u00e1rta \u015fi T\u00f3th Hanna, adic\u0103 fratele \u015fi m\u0103tu\u015fa lui Sz\u0151cs Zolt\u00e1n, respectiv un prieten de familie \u2013 c\u0103 \u00een ziua cu pricina l-au v\u0103zut pe inculpat \u00eenc\u0103rc\u00e2nd o dub\u0103 cu varz\u0103, \u00eenainte de a pleca \u00eempreun\u0103 cu tat\u0103l s\u0103u la t\u00e2rgul din Tu\u015fnad.<br \/>\nAudierea lui T\u00f3th Hanna se \u00eencheie cu o scen\u0103 tragicomic\u0103. Procurorul \u00eencearc\u0103 s\u0103 deruteze martorul cu \u201e\u00eentreb\u0103ri-capcan\u0103\u201d: ce culoare avea duba \u015fi cu ce a fost \u00eenc\u0103rcat\u0103? Mai exact \u201ece marf\u0103 era?\u201d Traduc\u0103toarea \u00een\u0163elege gre\u015fit, astfel martora r\u0103spunde la o alt\u0103 \u00eentrebare, declar\u00e2nd c\u0103 nu-\u015fi mai aduce aminte \u201ece marc\u0103 era\u201d. Pe un ton grav, judec\u0103torul intervine \u0219i o chestioneaz\u0103 pe martor\u0103 cum este posibil c\u0103<br \/>\n\u00ee\u015fi aduce aminte de tot felul de detalii \u0219i a uitat tocmai ce marf\u0103 a fost \u00eenc\u0103rcat\u0103 \u00een dub\u0103. \u00centr-un final se clarific\u0103 c\u0103 nu era vorba de \u201emarc\u0103\u201d \u015fi c\u0103 martora \u00ee\u015fi aduce aminte cu precizie de \u201emarf\u0103\u201d care era varz\u0103. Din sal\u0103 se aud chicoteli, inclusiv judec\u0103torul se st\u0103p\u00e2ne\u0219te cu greu, dup\u0103 care dicteaz\u0103 grefierului cu vocea pu\u021bin ridicat\u0103:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u2013 \u00centrebare: Ce marf\u0103 \u00eenc\u0103rca Sz\u0151cs Zolt\u00e1n \u00een dub\u0103?<br \/>\n\u2013 R\u0103spuns: Varz\u0103.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Urma adev\u0103rata \u201evarz\u0103\u201d, adic\u0103 audierea \u00eenregistr\u0103rii discu\u0163iilor din 10 octombrie 2015 (potrivit rechizitoriului). Abia dac\u0103 se disting c\u00e2teva vorbe. Cert este doar c\u0103 pe baza celor auzite \u00een sala de judecat\u0103 nu se poate stabili nici ce, nici c\u00e2nd \u015fi nici cum pl\u0103nuiau respectivii s\u0103 fac\u0103. \u00centr-un anumit moment \u00eenregistrarea se blocheaz\u0103. Tehnicianul \u00eencearc\u0103 un alt player, dar nu merge nici cu VLC, nici cu Media Player Classic. Cere \u0219i prime\u0219te aprobarea judec\u0103torului s\u0103 restarteze laptopul, f\u0103r\u0103 rezultat. \u00cen cele din urm\u0103 se aude \u00eenregistrarea din nou, dar nu se \u015ftie unde am r\u0103mas sau dac\u0103 nu am s\u0103rit cumva peste un fragment, dar nici nu are importan\u021b\u0103 pentru c\u0103 oricum nu se \u00een\u021belege nimic. Cirea\u0219a de pe tort este playerul folosit de aceast\u0103 dat\u0103, Media Player Classic, cu un cronometru minuscul, a\u0219a \u00eenc\u00e2t nu se vede pe proiector. Astfel, dac\u0103, s\u0103 zicem, avoca\u0163ii \u015fi-ar da seama, cumva, c\u0103 \u00eenregistrarea nu corespunde traducerii din dosar, f\u0103r\u0103 cronometraj exact n-ar avea cum s\u0103 semnaleze gre\u0219eala. Deci tot circul \u0103sta n-are niciun rost. R\u0103m\u00e2nem cu o singur\u0103 conluzie dup\u0103 aceast\u0103 experien\u021b\u0103. C\u0103 justi\u0163ia de la noi este incapabil\u0103 s\u0103 se descurce cu tehnica modern\u0103 \u0219i cu limba maghiar\u0103, \u00een general cu traducerile. De\u0219i, din aceast\u0103 cauz\u0103 este aproape imposibil\u0103 desf\u0103\u0219urarea unui proces echitabil.<br \/>\n<strong>Cine ce a spus?<\/strong><br \/>\nInstan\u021ba a r\u0103mas \u00een pronun\u021bare cu privire la expertizarea \u00eenregistr\u0103rii \u0219i a materialelor explozive, cerut\u0103 de avoca\u021bi. Sunt multe \u00eentreb\u0103ri care trebuie clarificate. De exemplu, chiar a existat o bomb\u0103 artizanal\u0103, respectiv cine \u0219i, mai important, ce a spus la acea \u00eent\u00e2lnire. Se pare c\u0103 interlocutorii nu au fost identifica\u0163i de un specialist, ci de c\u0103tre traduc\u0103torul procuraturii.<br \/>\n<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Szocs.L.Levente\">Sz\u0151cs Levente<\/a><\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>Traducere: Mih\u00e1ly Ilona<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nu Serviciul Rom\u00e2n de Informa\u021bii (SRI) a interceptat discu\u0163iile din octombrie 2015 ale membrilor din T\u00e2rgu Secuiesc ai Mi\u015fc\u0103rii Tinerilor din cele 64 de Comitate (HVIM). Unul dintre membrii organiza\u0163iei a \u00eenregistrat discu\u0163ia, oferind-o apoi autorit\u0103\u021bilor. 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